<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Vanity Fair doesn&#8217;t understand twitter.</title> <atom:link href="http://wrightcreativity.com/2010/01/vanity-fair-doesnt-understand-twitter/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://wrightcreativity.com/2010/01/vanity-fair-doesnt-understand-twitter/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=vanity-fair-doesnt-understand-twitter</link> <description>The starting point for the work of Kirsten Wright</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:57:00 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Celebrity Twitter Overkill: SuperNews! &#124; twittersRus.info</title><link>http://wrightcreativity.com/2010/01/vanity-fair-doesnt-understand-twitter/#comment-5865</link> <dc:creator>Celebrity Twitter Overkill: SuperNews! &#124; twittersRus.info</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 23:54:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://wrightcreativity.com/?p=2744#comment-5865</guid> <description>[...] Vanity Fair doesn&#039;t understand twitter. &#124; Wright Creativity [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Vanity Fair doesn&#39;t understand twitter. | Wright Creativity [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kirstenwright</title><link>http://wrightcreativity.com/2010/01/vanity-fair-doesnt-understand-twitter/#comment-5807</link> <dc:creator>kirstenwright</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 02:33:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://wrightcreativity.com/?p=2744#comment-5807</guid> <description>Alice,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you for adding your thoughts - and yes, I do agree that twitter can be used successfully in a one sided manners, but if you were to write about the top people using twitter would those be the people you featured? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The point of my article was not to focus on these women or how they use twitter but how little Vanity Fair understands about twitter. All the article talked about was numbers, celebrities and popularity - none of which are the keys to using twitter well. This isn&#039;t digital highschool - it&#039;s a tool for conversation and business growth.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alice,</p><p>Thank you for adding your thoughts &#8211; and yes, I do agree that twitter can be used successfully in a one sided manners, but if you were to write about the top people using twitter would those be the people you featured?</p><p>The point of my article was not to focus on these women or how they use twitter but how little Vanity Fair understands about twitter. All the article talked about was numbers, celebrities and popularity &#8211; none of which are the keys to using twitter well. This isn&#39;t digital highschool &#8211; it&#39;s a tool for conversation and business growth.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alice</title><link>http://wrightcreativity.com/2010/01/vanity-fair-doesnt-understand-twitter/#comment-5806</link> <dc:creator>Alice</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 02:26:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://wrightcreativity.com/?p=2744#comment-5806</guid> <description>While I agree w/ the fact that VF got it utterly wrong, I think you&#039;re being overly reductive in how you look @ twitter. There&#039;s value in the more one-sided relationships that you&#039;re discounting. I&#039;m not an extrovert and don&#039;t want to post, but I enjoy following people to get insights, info, relevant links, etc. For people wanting to build their reach &amp; audience, that&#039;s not a bad arrangement. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I definitely get that for many people, the interactions are a more valuable relationship than soliloquizing to an audience, but soliloquizing isn&#039;t without its merits.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree w/ the fact that VF got it utterly wrong, I think you&#39;re being overly reductive in how you look @ twitter. There&#39;s value in the more one-sided relationships that you&#39;re discounting. I&#39;m not an extrovert and don&#39;t want to post, but I enjoy following people to get insights, info, relevant links, etc. For people wanting to build their reach &#038; audience, that&#39;s not a bad arrangement.</p><p>I definitely get that for many people, the interactions are a more valuable relationship than soliloquizing to an audience, but soliloquizing isn&#39;t without its merits.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: teresa_schmidt</title><link>http://wrightcreativity.com/2010/01/vanity-fair-doesnt-understand-twitter/#comment-5805</link> <dc:creator>teresa_schmidt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:28:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://wrightcreativity.com/?p=2744#comment-5805</guid> <description>I&#039;m chuckling over the use of &quot;antiquated&quot; to describe anything to do with twitter. Does that mean as of last month or five minutes ago? I am also of the opinion (and we&#039;re entitled to them) that not following people makes for poor relationships. I agree with you that VF doesn&#039;t get it and I was certainly put off by the article.  Starting with the naked-beneath-our-trench coats and high heels presentation of the women. Nothing against them, because I don&#039;t know or follow any of them.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m chuckling over the use of &#8220;antiquated&#8221; to describe anything to do with twitter. Does that mean as of last month or five minutes ago? I am also of the opinion (and we&#39;re entitled to them) that not following people makes for poor relationships. I agree with you that VF doesn&#39;t get it and I was certainly put off by the article.  Starting with the naked-beneath-our-trench coats and high heels presentation of the women. Nothing against them, because I don&#39;t know or follow any of them.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kristicolvin</title><link>http://wrightcreativity.com/2010/01/vanity-fair-doesnt-understand-twitter/#comment-5804</link> <dc:creator>kristicolvin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:13:35 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://wrightcreativity.com/?p=2744#comment-5804</guid> <description>Barbara, nobody - and I mean NOBODY actually talks like that on Twitter. The &quot;language&quot; is best left to waste away in the digital archives and pages of that soon-to-be-yesterday&#039;s news issue of the magazine. It reads like a joke piece.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great post Kirsten!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbara, nobody &#8211; and I mean NOBODY actually talks like that on Twitter. The &#8220;language&#8221; is best left to waste away in the digital archives and pages of that soon-to-be-yesterday&#39;s news issue of the magazine. It reads like a joke piece.</p><p>Great post Kirsten!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kirstenwright</title><link>http://wrightcreativity.com/2010/01/vanity-fair-doesnt-understand-twitter/#comment-5803</link> <dc:creator>kirstenwright</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:31:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://wrightcreativity.com/?p=2744#comment-5803</guid> <description>Subscribers to a blog and followers on twitter are 2 very different things. With Twitter, I know every person when they follow me. I can click on their site, and see more about them as soon as they click follow. With a blog - all they are is numbers until they comment (because I don&#039;t have any more details than just a number). As far as the ones who have commented? If someone has commented on my blog, I make an effort to thank them via email for the first comment, follow them on twitter and build a relationship through other channels. I check out their blog, and if I like it, subscribe to them as well. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would say about 90% of those who comment on my site do I have a relationship with beyond a number.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subscribers to a blog and followers on twitter are 2 very different things. With Twitter, I know every person when they follow me. I can click on their site, and see more about them as soon as they click follow. With a blog &#8211; all they are is numbers until they comment (because I don&#39;t have any more details than just a number). As far as the ones who have commented? If someone has commented on my blog, I make an effort to thank them via email for the first comment, follow them on twitter and build a relationship through other channels. I check out their blog, and if I like it, subscribe to them as well.</p><p>I would say about 90% of those who comment on my site do I have a relationship with beyond a number.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ari Herzog</title><link>http://wrightcreativity.com/2010/01/vanity-fair-doesnt-understand-twitter/#comment-5802</link> <dc:creator>Ari Herzog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:10:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://wrightcreativity.com/?p=2744#comment-5802</guid> <description>Uh huh. How many people subscribe to your blog and what percentage of those people do you have a relationship with beyond a number?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh huh. How many people subscribe to your blog and what percentage of those people do you have a relationship with beyond a number?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kirstenwright</title><link>http://wrightcreativity.com/2010/01/vanity-fair-doesnt-understand-twitter/#comment-5801</link> <dc:creator>kirstenwright</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:08:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://wrightcreativity.com/?p=2744#comment-5801</guid> <description>Ari,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I stand by every word I wrote, including the fact that in my opinion, they are doing it wrong. While it may work for them, I think that if an article is going to feature people using twitter, the should think about how they use it first. The general consensus is that following only 10% is not really participatory (this is from others I have discussed this w/and in the comments.) Again, this analysis  is in my opinion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for your question, would I stereotype you in the same group? Yes. Were they to have chosen men to write about, and had included you in the list, I would have made the same comment re: followers. While you do participate with me, there are over 90% of your followers that you don&#039;t (if 4% is what you follow back). While I would never suggest you follow back everyone (spammers, people you are not interested in) I do think that the ratio should be more even. If you don&#039;t follow someone, how can you respond to them? Share a conversation? You can&#039;t.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do appreciate your thoughts!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ari,</p><p>I stand by every word I wrote, including the fact that in my opinion, they are doing it wrong. While it may work for them, I think that if an article is going to feature people using twitter, the should think about how they use it first. The general consensus is that following only 10% is not really participatory (this is from others I have discussed this w/and in the comments.) Again, this analysis  is in my opinion.</p><p>As for your question, would I stereotype you in the same group? Yes. Were they to have chosen men to write about, and had included you in the list, I would have made the same comment re: followers. While you do participate with me, there are over 90% of your followers that you don&#39;t (if 4% is what you follow back). While I would never suggest you follow back everyone (spammers, people you are not interested in) I do think that the ratio should be more even. If you don&#39;t follow someone, how can you respond to them? Share a conversation? You can&#39;t.</p><p>I do appreciate your thoughts!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ari Herzog</title><link>http://wrightcreativity.com/2010/01/vanity-fair-doesnt-understand-twitter/#comment-5800</link> <dc:creator>Ari Herzog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 20:35:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://wrightcreativity.com/?p=2744#comment-5800</guid> <description>Whoa, Kirsten.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;They all have 40k+ followers but follow, on average, less than 10% of them back! That means they are not conversing, not sharing and definitely not participating with their followers. Pathetic, and not the way twitter should be used.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can&#039;t disagree stronger with these words. Who are you to define how Twitter should be used? More to the point, if you look at my Twitter account at &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/ariherzog&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://twitter.com/ariherzog&lt;/a&gt;, I currently follow about 4% of those who follow me. Would you stereotype me in the same frame as Felicia Day that I don&#039;t converse, share, or participate? You&#039;re also not including lists, looking only at the follower number.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, Kirsten.</p><p>&#8220;They all have 40k+ followers but follow, on average, less than 10% of them back! That means they are not conversing, not sharing and definitely not participating with their followers. Pathetic, and not the way twitter should be used.&#8221;</p><p>I can&#39;t disagree stronger with these words. Who are you to define how Twitter should be used? More to the point, if you look at my Twitter account at <a href="http://twitter.com/ariherzog" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/ariherzog</a>, I currently follow about 4% of those who follow me. Would you stereotype me in the same frame as Felicia Day that I don&#39;t converse, share, or participate? You&#39;re also not including lists, looking only at the follower number.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: kirstenwright</title><link>http://wrightcreativity.com/2010/01/vanity-fair-doesnt-understand-twitter/#comment-5795</link> <dc:creator>kirstenwright</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:09:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://wrightcreativity.com/?p=2744#comment-5795</guid> <description>Brad - Very well put. I think that you are absolutely right in that it doesn&#039;t give a good example for anyone wondering about twitter. I look forward to reading your article on it! :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad &#8211; Very well put. I think that you are absolutely right in that it doesn&#39;t give a good example for anyone wondering about twitter. I look forward to reading your article on it! <img src='http://wrightcreativity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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